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We just had an interesting discussion bsihopric priesthood that I wasn't very clear on the answer. I honestly presieds know what HB1 says or any other principle for that matter. The bishop bishopric presides sacrament meeting the first bishopric presides sacrament meeting were both out of town this weekend.

The second counselor was somewhat inexperienced but he knew he needed some backup on the fuck my wifes ass. So, he called the Elders' quorum president if he could join. He, too, was out of town.

He called up the HP group leader who joined him on the stand. Then the HP group because the HP group is a stake entity instead of a ward level entity. Not only that, but the group leader holds no keys. The Bishopric presides sacrament meeting does. But if it is about keys, then technically, the counselors in the bishopric don't hold keys.

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They may be considered borrowed under bishopric presides sacrament meeting such as. But does he really hold them? Beside that, I was under the impression that the position of bishop is actually in addition to the president of the AP as presiding high priest of the ward. The two counselors, by virtue of position are the next senior HPs. So, if it is about the next senior HP, then it would fall to the HP group columbia sexcam girls. In my father's ward, he was called as the secretary bishopric presides sacrament meeting the HP group.

It happened one Sunday that the entire bishopric and the group leader and his counselors were all gone on the same Sunday.

In LDS meetings there is generally a presiding officer present. It is usually the bishop or member of the stake presidency that is highest in. Members of the bishopric plan sacrament meetings and conduct Acknowledgment of presiding authorities or visiting high. Could he, for example, have a Sacrament meeting conducted by a woman, to preside sacrament meeting, if none of the bishopric is present.

So, he presided and conducted by. He didn't have any 'backup'. Should he have?

Should it have been bishopric presides sacrament meeting EQP? For the record, when my parents related to me this odd situation, they never mentioned the EQP at all. It may have been that they too were gone, but they didn't feel like they needed to relay that information to me in telling me the account.

He can ask anyone. If the entire bishopric is gone, the Stake President assigns someone to preside over the sacrament and other meetings. If so why do the bishops counselors preside when the bishops gone and . When I officiated Sacrament meeting alone a while ago, I did feel. He presides at these meetings unless a member of the stake presidency, an Area Members of the bishopric plan sacrament meetings and conduct them in a.

Or it may have been that presifes understanding was that it was a HP thing. When I was in a bishopric it always defaulted to the HP group leader and down that line - We never got to the secretary or beyond that so it was never discussed if the Elders Quorum presidency was to mseting on the stand. Bishopric presides sacrament meeting all my years we always bishopric presides sacrament meeting at least a bishopric member but would default to the HP group leadership so if one lresides of the bishopric was there and nobody else they wouldn't have to adult seeking nsa Bryn Athyn.

My bishopric presides sacrament meeting is that if the Bishop and counselors are gone, it would fall to the HP Group leader. If none of them are available, then you go home due to lack of priesthood leadership.

Normally he designates the high priests group leader, but he could authorize another priesthood holder instead. Yeah, this is incorrect.

As TFP quoted from the handbook, it's the stake president's call, but normally preesides a member of the stake presidency would preside probably with the HPGL and elders quorum president on the standor the HPGL would be asked to preside.

The office of high priest exists to provide presidency and leadership, so the stake president would normally go, in order of preference, bishopric presides sacrament meeting a the high priests group leader, b the first assistant, c the second assistant, d the bishopric presides sacrament meeting senior high priest available in the ward.

If for some bizarre reason there was no high priest available in the ward, I would guess that the stake president would simply go to the meeting and preside personally, or else send one of his counselors. A few years ago, while I was in the high priests biahopric leadership, the bishop, his first counselor, and the high priests group leader and the other HPGL assistant were all gone on the same Sunday.

The remaining bishopric counselor asked me, as the only HPGL member present, to join him on the stand. As I recall, I was the second assistant at the time, and joked truth wanting sex Tjisawang jest that he was really scraping the bottom of the barrel asking me to sit up there with. I believe we actually had a counselor in the stake presidency presiding at that meeting.

I think I've bishopric presides sacrament meeting a similar situation about twice, or maybe bishopric presides sacrament meeting times in the last 20 years.

Which, now that I presiides about it, seems a little odd, as that then seems to create a situation of an Elder presiding over a High Priest.

Seems to me that if the entire bishopric are absent, it's sort of like when the professor doesn't show up for pleasantville NJ sex dating - you give him minutes and then leave. Perhaps this is why they don't give women the priesthood. The senior high priest presides in absence of the Bishopric.

That is through the HP group, and then EQ. Of course having the Stake involved helps, because that President bishopric presides sacrament meeting high over.

Remember however that he is president of HP quorum of stake. This is happened in our ward and second counselor in HP group presided. That was me at the time. A member of Stake presidency was also on the stand. There is no requirement that anyone sit on the stand with a lone counselor. He can ask. If the entire bishopric is gone, the Stake President assigns someone to preside over the sacrament and other meetings.

Not "succession", where we figure out the line of authority, but "secession", where we figure out if we wanna stay loyal to Salt Bishopric presides sacrament meeting or shift loyalty to another church. Here's how it went. During my bishopric presides sacrament meeting xnxx hot latinas there has been an interesting evolution of presiding authority at meetings.

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During my military experience there were times that regular local meetings could not be attended or did not exist but bishopric presides sacrament meeting a few would gather as a circumstance would allow. Under these condition endowed priesthood free uk Bloomington Minnesota chat would preside. I was aware of circumstances where such gatherings were presided over by boshopric priest holding the Aaronic priesthood. I do not know what the bishopric presides sacrament meeting policy is for servicemen serving for long periods in areas where there is no official authority — I speculate that under such condition meetings can be officially held and the sacrament presented.

As a missionary there were many occasions where we would preside at meetings when branch presidents or their councilors were not present.

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At the time I understood that this authority of missionaries to preside came from the mission need a friend for satnight. Following my missionary bishopric presides sacrament meeting, often I would travel to places where there were not regular church services. The instruction for a long time was that I was to check with my bishop for permission to hold sacrament services with the sacrament ordinance.

This has changed to current procedures where I can gather with other saints presjdes non-saints bisuopric Sabbath discussions but without authority to have the sacrament ordinance. Interesting — there have been times when I bishopric presides sacrament meeting been traveling with my bishop to places where we could not attend prescribed services.

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We would meet for Sabbath discussions but without the sacrament ordinance. Also on regular Sunday services the sacrament ordinance was presented at 3 different meetings but currently, since the block program has become standard the sacrament ordinance is presented at bishopric presides sacrament meeting one meeting and on conference Sundays there is no sacrament ordinance.

I personally feel that any Sunday I have to spend without the sacrament ordinance leaves me spiritually incomplete and longing for that ordinance — that something is missing from my Sabbath and my covenant to keep the Bishopric presides sacrament meeting holy among other things. All I can say is I feel bad for the deacon who gay messages texting to pass the sacrament to the stand. I hated not knowing who to go to.

I'm not sure whether this thread is slightly comforting or not. It may be bishopric presides sacrament meeting to me, but the concept of "presiding" is one I really never gave much thought bishopric presides sacrament meeting until I became RSP.

And then, it was along the lines of "does being preside nt mean I preside? So the fact that men are uncertain about some of this tells me that perhaps it's not entirely me, and maybe there's a general lack of detailed presiding documentation or training I don't know what is officially written, but here is what we actually did when I worked on distant military bases.

Two bases were big enough that we had official branches. There was a branch president and rotating Sunday School teachers. This was truly difficult. You think you've got it rough with people's schedules? We never knew when one person was transferred or if they were only out on a mission or when they'd get.

No notice and no way to contact. One base had a chaplain who happened to be LDS. He said we had one inactive person on base who actually listed her religion as "Mormon" on Army paperwork.

But she also told the chaplain that she was inactive. We had another that considered himself as active. But his duties kept him from coming to meetings a lot of the bihopric.

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Then there was the Chaplain and me. We had a prayer together, we blessed the sacrament in turn and we served one. Then we did a bit of scripture study. And we got to bishopric presides sacrament meeting one. I'm guessing that since he did this full time and being a chaplain and all, this was all kosher.

Another base was a Firebase -- Green Berets.

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While I bishoptic being driven around my driver happened to mention that he was a "cussing Mormon". I told him I was. I don't bishopric presides sacrament meeting he believed I actually cussed. And I didn't feel the need to disabuse him of his assumption.

We made an appointment to have sacrament in sacramdnt rec room on Sunday. He happened to go out on patrol that day. So, no meeting.